User blog comment:Mrdaimion/Why we Shouldn't Have Gay Marriage/@comment-1874924-20121220013745/@comment-1874924-20121221050614

Dra, Reddy, I don't want to sound harsh, but you both come across as being willing to say anything. Some of your statements are just that absurd. If that's not the image you want to project, then you must revise your arguments.

@ Dra:


 * You did not answer my question.

We both know that's not true. I did answer your question, it just wasn't the answer that you were apparently demanding (which, presumably, was to agree with you.) And just because you didn't mention children doesn't mean that it wasn't relevant to your question.


 * Gay people are PEOPLE. They deserve equal rights just like you do, Gideon. It's not right to treat them like creatures. Gay people have FEELINGS

Can you show me where I suggested otherwise? I didn't think so. Don't put words in my mouth.


 * What if [Mikey] meets someone he really likes and wants to get married? Would you never talk to him again because of this?

You're not making any sense. The fact is, of all the people who have tried to rebut my arguments, Mikey is the only one who seems to have made any real effort to actually understand them, as opposed to just looking for ways to refute them.


 * Would you say it's not right for Mikey to want to love and be with this person forever? Because that's what you're saying right now.

Now you're just lying. I'm saying nothing of the sort. A debating rule of thumb is that if you can't make your point honestly, then you're probably wrong. People stay together--sometimes even forever--all the time without having legally recognized marriages. Don't tell me that you didn't know that.

@Reddy:

The point behind my "minority rule" reference is that minorities almost always consider themselves oppressed unless they are allowed to impose their will upon the majority. Yes, minorities have certain rights, but the majority has rights and prerogatives too. True or false?

Your comparison to the abolition of slavery doesn't even deserve a response. It's utter nonsense.


 * It's [recognizing same-sex "marriage"] called equality.

I don't agree. Restating your position is not an argument, so you make no valid point.


 * what-if some religion formed that allows gay marriage? Then the law would have to allow such marriage, because of "freedom of religion".

Are you suggesting that a church has the right to dictate policy to the government? If you make religion-based arguments in support of same-sex "marriage", then you must acknowledge that religion-based arguments against it are also legitimate. If you won't do that, then you have a double standard to explain.


 * However there's probably some fine-printed annotation that's against this, as all laws seem to have evidently.

That "fine print annotation" is called "separation of church and state". Or do you think that only applies to policies that you don't agree with?


 * I see no reason for anyone who isn't gay to care about gay marriage.

That says more about you than it does about my arguments. (Your "seeing no reason" is not evidence that reasons aren't there.) Your point might be valid if the legal benefits of marriage didn't include tax dollars or tax breaks, but the existence of state-sponsored financial benefits makes it the business of every taxpayer. Unless, of course, you don't think the government should be accountable for how it spends our tax dollars.

P.S.: "The pursuit of happiness" is from the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.