User talk:HerrMana

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Hi, welcome to Total Drama Island Fanfiction wikia! Thanks for your edit to the User:Manatee12 page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Nalyd Renrut (Talk) 18:14, February 1, 2011

I noted on your User page that you don't expect to write any fanfictions here. If it makes you feel better, that's never been a requirement. We can always use people who take the trouble to comment on the stories they read. Besides, the future is always in question. When I first became aware of this wiki, I wasn't expecting to write original stories, either, let alone a competition story. Gideoncrawle I have a song to sing, O!  Sing me your song, O!  A wandering minstrel, I-- 05:40, April 23, 2011 (UTC)

Well, you get to create a character for my story after the next All-stars. Though, keep in mind that I'll likely alter it to fit what I might need, but I'll try to keep the essence of the character there. Sprinklemist hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 02:22, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Send personality description, slight background info, appearance if you want, whenever you want, but I'd prefer it soon, so I can plan the character. You can also send it right on my talk page. Sprinklemist hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 15:11, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Sure. I'm okay with that. Sprinklemist hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 14:36, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm glad you like those goofy costumes. XD As for changing my artstyle... Well... I haven't changed it, I just got used to a nicer art program. I like it better this way. Sprinklemist hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 20:18, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

It would be the same thing if it were done in paint, just with the rigged lines you've all become so accustomed to. I'm not sure what else is all that different about it. Sprinklemist hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 20:47, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

I wouldn't call that plagiarism, just a really creepy coincidence. O_o It's hilarious, though. I wouldn't mind that. XD I really wish   you could all   be California boys.  21:42, September 28, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Manatee. Can you remind me of her personality. That bio you gave me got buried. :/ Sprinklemist hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 00:12, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I think it is a little much, because I like to have some control over my characters. XD But I do appreciate the effort. I really do. 8D Sprinklemist hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 14:26, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

I plan to do some of both. Sprinklemist hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 14:06, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

My new wiki friend! I enjoy meeting and making friends with people, and I'm really glad we've met :) I really like your artwork and your avatar, too. They're very colorful. :D JustLittleOlMe Lil   Jay JLOM   Mrs. Gideon  23:52, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

I mistakenly thought all those nice character pictures on your user page were made by you. Oopsies! JustLittleOlMe Lil   Jay JLOM   Mrs. Gideon  03:31, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

I'd rather name her myself, if you don't mind. I might go with one of the ones you suggeste, too. I'm also not sure how closely I'll follow your pic. I'm kind of undecided. <font color="Green">Sprinklemist <font color="Orange">hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 20:39, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Just wondering... Are you a boy or a girl? XD <font color="DodgerBlue">Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen He was #1. 18:29, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Naw, not at all. I figured you were a guy xD <font color="DodgerBlue">Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen He was #1. 19:26, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

IDK, I can just guess that kind of stuff. You know, Bruno and Cavi74 (creator of the infamous Total Drama Danger) live in Brazil too, I think. :P <font color="DodgerBlue">Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen He was #1. 19:29, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Personally, I don't mind it, but lots of people don't like it because it's only pictures... But the pictures are awesome. Cavi is a great artist. :P <font color="DodgerBlue">Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen He was #1. 19:34, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment on my blog. I hope to see you in Chat, too! No one is more important than anyone else, it's just that some of us have gotten to know each other better over time. Come add to the fun in Chat, because we go there for the fun of chatting, and we always welcome more chatters! :D JustLittleOlMe Lil   Jay JLOM   Mrs. Gideon  17:12, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

I like a few of them a lot. I'll definitely use one of them. Thanks, man. :D Is it the look in your eyes, Or is it this dancing juice? 00:40, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Manatee. :D So, I'm doing the whole cast for Flame's and Duke's fanfictions. But I could do requsts for fun. :) My name   is   Bruno!  18:50, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

I'm planing on have the cast done by the end of the month. And thanks, that means a lot for me. :D I tell you when I finish it. My name  is   Bruno!  19:23, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

I was gonna say that I appreciated the update on your blog, and was pretty surprised that Ina wasn't your fave. Thanks for the effort it took, but I will delete it for ya. <font color="Green">Sprinklemist <font color="Orange">hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 21:43, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

xDD Just like you, I hadn't planned to write anything here when I signed up. Gid was the same way. (During my preview for posting this comment, I spotted that Gid had already mentioned that he had no plans to write when he came here. x)) Yet, here we all are writing stories! xD Maybe this place makes writing addictive. :P Thanks for your vote for Gull, and I'm really glad my stories made you like him even more. Just wondering if you've read The Loon's Tale yet? You probably know that Gull is in that one, too. I wanted to say it was great chatting with you and Bruno today, and I hope we all get to chat some more soon. :) JustLittleOlMe Lil   Jay JLOM   Lady Gideon  02:09, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Just read your comment about the writing thing. Gid would never be offended by that. He was asked for advice so many times that he created the Writer's Workshop to be able to answer all the questions in one place. He may not have even noticed that you didn't respond. I wasn't on Chat today, but maybe tomorrow, and I'm guessing around 5pm here (10pm there) is about the latest you're normally on Chat? So if you normally get on Chat around 5pm, it'll be noon here. :) JustLittleOlMe Lil   Jay JLOM   Lady Gideon  03:27, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

I happened to notice your conversation with my DW, so I'll verify that I wasn't necessarily expecting you to respond to the message I left when you first joined. I didn't ask any questions or say anything else that really required a response, so it's all good. Gideoncrawle I have a song to sing, O!  Sing me your song, O!  A wandering minstrel, I-- 04:05, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Manatee. :D Devon is my favorite too. I did a good job with him (not sounding too conceited). xD Kylee was draw after Dawn. That's why she looks like so TD-ish. xD I didn't liked Gabrielle and Oriana's head shape, too. I tried to base them on Eva's head shape, but I guess I failed at this. Thanks again. I really like the feedback. :D Anne Maria:  "Brick may not be attractive in any way, but he is still a person." 15:51, February 24, 2012 (UTC)

You're so sweet!! *hugs* Don't worry. I don't usually hang around much after I say I'm leaving anyway, because usually then someone says something great, and I don't want to leave until I comment on that comment, and so on. xDD Thanks, though!! :) JustLittleOlMe Lil   Jay JLOM   Lady Gideon  01:25, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

As far as I'm concerned, there's no wrong way to apologize, and I'm like you--I apologize fairly often. Usually to make sure I haven't offended someone. :) The people I apologize to often say they didn't even notice whatever it is I'm apologizing about. xD And that's basically what I'm saying to you too. "No need to apologize. I didn't leave much time for anyone to say 'goodbye' anyway." :) JustLittleOlMe Lil   Jay JLOM   Lady Gideon  21:41, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

I'm so sorry about the delay. I really need someone to do that. I will ask for requests tomorrow in a blog made special for that. I actually noticed the same thing today when I almost put one of the characters up for nomination for FC. Also, I thought it would be more appropriate when I post the new chapter tomorrow where he gets more development to nominate him after. I'm so sorry about the hold up. When I started the story, I thought I'd get the rest a week after I posted the first chapter. I was just so excited because I just loved the story. Then, OHF kept on procrastinating and then SAI was deleted... so yeah. -- If your undies are tight, <font color="#D2691E">it's uncomfortable.   If you're a boy and your bra is tight, I'm uncomfortable  01:44, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Hey. I wanted to say I was sorry in case I did offend you with my statement about your super hero idea. I shouldn't have said I didn't like it. The major issue was that it reminded me of Her Royal Hotness, and I want to avoid having ideas that remind me of things I did last time. <font color="Green">Sprinklemist <font color="Orange">hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 01:52, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you :3 -TanookiEditor Ⓐ▼▲ Ⓐ▼▲ Make It Rain  15:18, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

No. I was worried, too. He let me know on ff.net what was going on, and it had nothing to do with that. Don't worry. <font color="Green">Sprinklemist <font color="Orange">hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 20:56, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

You seem like someone I can tolerate. We should talk more. :3 ~ <span style="color:purple; text-shadow: 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0">M <span style="color:grey; text-shadow: 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0">T<span style="color:blue; text-shadow: 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0">D<span style="color:#6E6EF7; text-shadow: 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0">M  <span style="color:black; text-shadow: 0 0 0.2em #C285E0, 0 0 0.2em #C285E0, 0 0 0.2em #C285E0, 0 0 0.2em #C285E0">23:38, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Blargh I hate don't can't go on Chat! D: ~ <span style="color:purple; text-shadow: 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0">M <span style="color:grey; text-shadow: 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0">T<span style="color:blue; text-shadow: 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0">D<span style="color:#6E6EF7; text-shadow: 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0, 0 0 0.2em #B8BEE0">M  <span style="color:black; text-shadow: 0 0 0.2em #C285E0, 0 0 0.2em #C285E0, 0 0 0.2em #C285E0, 0 0 0.2em #C285E0">23:43, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, Manatee. I reported him. :) <font color="Green">Sprinklemist <font color="Orange">hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 23:58, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

The flaw in your argument is that, while the definition of closed-mindedness is straightforward, the matter of what qualifies as evidence of closed-mindedness is subjective. Furthermore, establishing that someone is closed-minded requires a pattern. A single incident is not enough. I can tell you this, though: any standard for declaring someone closed-minded that includes Michael but not Ryan is bigoted.

Speaking of Ryan, his situation and Michael's are not comparable. Michael made a single comment, and explicitly identified it as an opinion. Ryan, on the other hand, has a history of trollish behavior. He has also engaged in intimidation behavior, which is grounds for a ban regardless of any other circumstances. Gideoncrawle I have a song to sing, O!  Sing me your song, O!  A wandering minstrel, I-- 04:41, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

I can't speak to what happens on chat, since I don't go there much; and on the few occasions that Michael and I have been on chat at the same time, he has not engaged in the behavior you describe. Besides, tantrums (which I'm guessing is what you're actually describing) and trollishness are separate concepts. Having a temper does not in itself make someone a troll. In any case, chat discipline and wiki discipline are separate domains. Gideoncrawle I have a song to sing, O!  Sing me your song, O!  A wandering minstrel, I-- 16:45, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

Michael was banned because his comments offended some users. You may not have been offended by Ryan's comments, but some users were. It would be a double standard to allow someone with one opinion on the subject to be allowed to say whatever he want, just because he said something the majority of users agreed with. The ban was for Ryan's conduct, more than his comments, anyway. There were people that protested Michael's ban, and Ryan gunned for the ban. Then Ryan tried to defend himself with excuses that could have applied to Michael, as well. Of course, all of this isn't an excuse for users to choose to be offended by what they feel like. There should be some legitimacy to what is deemed 'offensive'. My thought on the matter is that neither comment offended me, but I can't claim that they were inoffensive to everyone. <font color="Green">Sprinklemist <font color="Orange">hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 17:10, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

It's about his conduct, Manatee, although what Ryan said was not right, an insult is an insult, he was banned for his behavior and reaction to what happened. I would have to disagree, though. I feel like a personal insult is worse than a general insult that doesn't target an individual, while both aren't the best. How I feel about it doesn't matter, though. <font color="Green">Sprinklemist <font color="Orange">hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 17:24, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate that you feel strongly about it, but, again. Ryan was banned for his behaviour, not what he said. Wikia policy/etiquette asks users to report issues to admins, not inciting conflict by publicly arguing or demanding a user be banned, and not being satisfied until it happens (in Ryan's case, that wasn't even satisfying enough, since he admits to instigating the global ban). <font color="Green">Sprinklemist <font color="Orange">hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 17:34, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I wasn't trying to be argumentative, but to try to explain the ban. I just want it clear that I'm not excusing what Michael did. He was banned for that. <font color="Green">Sprinklemist <font color="Orange">hasn't changed his signature in a long time. 18:37, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

Regarding your question about bigoted standards, I think you can answer your own question by keeping two facts in mind: Chat discipline and wiki discipline are different domains because people who are banned from chat aren't necessarily (or even usually) banned from the wiki, and the chat-ban process is much less formal. Furthermore, because people in chat are "shooting from the hip" and don't have as much time to think about what they're saying, the standards are different. In any case, the way you describe Michael's chat behavior makes it sound a lot more like a child's temper tantrums than anything that a reasonable person would consider offensive or trollish.
 * 1) The definition of bigotry includes intolerance of other opinions; and
 * 2) Bigotry in the name of tolerance is still bigotry.

I can tell you one thing, though: if I had known at the time that Ryan was the one who instigated Michael's global ban (which I suspected but didn't have proof of), Ryan's ban would have been a lot longer than two weeks. I've been told that ratting out someone solely for being underage is a ban offense on the TD wiki, and that policy seems a good one to me. I'm not going to change his ban length after the fact, though. Sprink can do that if he wants, since his information is closer to the source than mine.

The last thing I will say on the subject is this: Ryan was banned for the specific way he expressed his opinion, whereas Michael was banned (as far as I can tell) for the opinion itself. Do you see the difference? I suspect that's why Sprink was so reluctant to ban Michael in the first place--he knew it wasn't right, but felt that he had no choice. Gideoncrawle I have a song to sing, O!  Sing me your song, O!  A wandering minstrel, I--  20:49, March 29, 2012 (UTC)